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JOSANA TRAIL

 

I’ve blogged several times about the need to create a link between Frontier Field and Sahlen’s Stadium. The baseball and soccer stadiums are so close, yet so far apart. I think a stadium district would promote both assets.

A plan is in the works that would at last start to connect the stadiums. The city has issued a request for proposals to expand the Genesee Riverway Trail through High Falls, Brown Square and JOSANA. This would be a rails-to-trails conversion, as CSX is abandoning track between Oak and Hague St.

Linking in the two stadiums is not the primary reason the city is studying the trail’s feasibility.  There is low car ownership in JOSANA, and the city identifies Lyell Ave., between Dewey and Murray as a “hot spot” for incidents involving pedestrians and bicyclists.

But a nicely-landscaped trail could help build a bridge between the stadiums, making people more comfortable with Sahlen’s location. Perhaps it could be lit and staffed on game nights.

In related news, the city is holding a meeting on its bicycle boulevards plan Tuesday.

 

Links of the Day:

– Mayor Warren’s communication staff again taking heat. Why did they send out the crime stats late on a Friday, instead of holding a press conference?

– Governor Cuomo is giving grants to shooting ranges, possibly to make amends with gun crowd.

– Like Rochester, Syracuse feels left out in the cold by the governor.

– Why not fill the empty seats in New York’s Bills stadium suite with needy kids?

– Businesses WANT better biking infrastructure. See why.

– The New York Times lays out the case for a higher minimum wage.

– The Buffalo News considers ARTISANworks worthy of a day trip.

7 Responses to Trail Would Connect Stadiums

  1. February 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm RaChaCha responds:

    If this was done as a Rails-WITH-Trails project, that would allow the city to keep the potential for future rail excursions (or even rail transit) from the soccer stadium to Charlotte. “Rails-With-Trails” is an allowable thing — there are dozens of those types of trails nationwide & FHWA has standards for separation of rail service from trail users.
    When I was an organizer of the “Chill The Fill” campaign opposing the fill of the old subway tunnel, a group of us met with the Rhinos about such future uses of the rail corridor (which ends within stadium grounds) and they were very supportive.
    The right-of-way in question used to have more than one track side-by-side, and is easily wide enough to safely accommodate (with appropriate separation) trail use along with occasional rail excursion (or even future rail transit) use.

  2. February 9, 2014 at 2:25 pm Andrew Zibuck responds:

    I fail to see how linking the stadiums via trails helps any more than the existing roads and sidewalks. I don’t fear parking or walking at either place, but both were cart-before-the-horse placements as has been noted many times before. Rails-to-trails is fine in it’s own right, but isn’t going to do squat for the stadiums or a potential “stadium district”.

  3. How many people will go to either stadium with the train that wouldn’t go before without the train? My guess is about 3.

    If your going to do light rail IMO it should connect the UR / RIT / NAZ / Fisher/ with the East End, Charlotte and the airport. Other than that its a train to nowhere. The students will use the trian likely daily and will bring all campus’s together. From there the system would grow.

  4. Orielly – add in East/Winton and downtown, and leave out Charlotte, and that’d be a fantastic train route. Pretty easy to make a loop out of that too. Of course it will never happen 🙁

  5. February 11, 2014 at 11:19 pm Tony Mittiga responds:

    Nor should it happen! Rochester just doesn’t have the population density to justify this kind of transportation. Bus lines run past both stadiums, but, from what I’ve seen, they are not being used by the fans. What signs are there that rail transit is needed?

    • 1) Personally I do not use the bus because when I have tried to take the bus, I’ve had bad results. The bus has blown right past me, leaving me waiting for the next one 30 minutes later. The bus goes and sits in the U of R library parking lot for 20 minutes for no apparent reason in the middle of the route. The bus comes 15 minutes late. Etc etc. It’s nice that it’s only $1, but you get a bad product for a cheap price. No surprise that more people don’t take the bus.

      2) Rail drives more investment than bus lines because rail is (more) permanent. Bus lines can be changed or deleted easily because there’s no fixed infrastructure. If a light rail line is laid down, businesses (and colleges) can bet that that public transportation will be there for years to come. Thus rail can drive higher density better than buses.

  6. Rachacha, don’t worry about losing the rail right of way, all the rails to trails conversion does is moth ball the rail line. The govt temporarily takes over stewardship and maintains the trail, but CSX still owns it. It is still actually a rail right of way and can be converted back if there is a need. I know this spur, the railroad bed is destroye over most of it, so it’s not like the trail conversion is taking anything away. Or at least that’s my understanding of the rails to trails program.

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