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Erie Promenade

A major project has been proposed on Rochester’s riverfront downtown. Think about how Erie Harbor and Corn Hill Landing have transformed the waterfront. Now comes Morgan Management’s plan to build a $20 million, 100-unit luxury complex right behind Dinosaur Bar-B-Que, according to the Rochester Business Journal.

Morgan Management RenderingThis is a big deal for several reasons. First, it totally transforms what is now desolate riverfront space. Second, it will enhance a riverfront promenade planned by the city. (The waterway access would still be public.) Third, along with the planned skatepark, it could effectively kill any plans to re-water the old Erie Canal downtown.

Judging from the map above, it appears the complex would go in the area outlined in blue. The city had planned a park near the old Subway entrance. RBJ reports Morgan Management will have underground parking near the entrance.

Morgan Management is also involved in the redo of Midtown Tower and the controversial new apartment complex proposal on University Ave. behind the Eastman House. The RBJ reports the company will submit site plans to the city soon for the riverfront proposal. I’m sure there will be a lot of questions and a lot more information to come.

Promenade at Erie Harbor Rendering

Promenade at Erie Harbor Rendering


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15 Responses to Housing Behind Dinosaur

  1. March 22, 2013 at 11:16 am Dave Wurz responds:

    Hey Rachel,
    Nice story and for Rochester I hope it happens. But I would like to bring up a more pressing issue in regards to housing. I am speaking of section 8 vouchers not being accepted in the towns and villages of Monroe County. This seem like out and out racism/discrimination. It also hurts the entire city by concentrating poverty to the “crescent” and overburdens the cities social services network. Many towns even have laws on the books forbidding any such housing.
    The city od Rochester will die and become like Utica if we think the donut mentality(empty in the middle rich on the outside) can continue. We need to break up this concentration of poverty and embrace a metro school system. They say Pioneers get slaughtered and settlers thrive,and and I believe Bill Johnson was the “pioneer” on this issue. Its time for several prominent local political people from BOTH parties to team up on this issue so Rochester can again thrive.

  2. That’s fine. I was sick of being able to find parking for Dinosaur anyway.

  3. Yes!!! I really hope this goes through. We need more projects like this for the city of Rochester!!!

  4. March 22, 2013 at 11:38 am Jay Partyka responds:

    The rendering looks like one long row of buildings with no breaks. I’d like to see some breaks just to make sure the riverfront is completely cut off from South Ave.

    It would also be nice if they put in some more affordable units. As much as downtown is booming I’d be surprised if there’s a market for 100 luxury units anyways. Make the units facing the river the luxury ones.

  5. March 22, 2013 at 11:42 am ikejames responds:

    This sounds about right. Pittsburgh was able to turn itself around by focusing on the waterfront. Rochester needs to continue the focus.

    Is there any housing with a view of the Falls? I would think that would be prime real estate.

  6. The killing of the Broad St Aquadumb and adjoining pond will be fantastic. Such a waste of what City Hall tells us is scarce taxpayer money. I just wonder how much money Richards will funnel to Morgan for this development.

    It would be nice if some of those units are condos.

  7. March 22, 2013 at 1:00 pm RaChaCha responds:

    Wouldn’t this also block the potential to have light rail along the east side of the river btw the U of R & DT that could also plug into the subway tunnel–?

  8. I support this. Erie Harbor was rented out before it was even finished and still has a waiting list. There is an obvious demand for waterfront property and any revitalization plans should capitalize on it.

  9. rachacha, as I understand it there are easements for the subway entrance that this project has to work around. So on the very off chance we saw light rail, it could be done.

  10. March 22, 2013 at 5:09 pm RaChaCha responds:

    Thank you, Bill!

    Although, as you can see, they’re planning to build on area that was intended to be parkland, so perhaps things that “the little people” have to worry about, like easements, parkland, waterfront plans, etc. aren’t seen as roadblocks by these folks. Also, at the moment, they are attempting a couple of projects in a historic district that don’t appear to be particularly compatible.

    Maybe Morgan Management just gets a pass on all that stuff!

  11. You lost me on the University Ave comment. I don’t get the opposition to it. The parking complaint holds no water, the Eastman House’s complaints are somewhat factual but still laughable, and I don’t get the neighborhood’s opposition. Its a desirable neighborhood, we should be happy when people want to build there. It’ll add to the tax base and bring new residents to the area. That means more patrons for local businesses. I really hope a bunch of NIMBY neighbors don’t kill that project.

  12. I agree Bill.

    Having lived on Beacon St (and loved it), it’s plain to see why developers would want to build on that area’s success.

    Those opposing the development seem to be making excuses. I can only assume that the neighbors are concerned that it would add too many renters to an already somewhat dense area. But my street was book-ended with bars and nightlife and I never experienced any negative side effects.

  13. March 24, 2013 at 12:03 am Flamingo responds:

    The Erie Harbor Park Master Plan specifically calls out exactly this kind of private project. that’s why the improvements are focused close to the water. look at pages 50-60 of the master plan. http://www.cityofrochester.gov/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=8589947297

  14. March 24, 2013 at 1:39 am PMC-Con responds:

    To the “intelligentsia” in Rochester who oppose efforts to do projects that highlight the history of the City:

    So why should anyone come to Rochester to visit? “We have a bunch of housing for rich people along the river.” That’s an(other) attraction! If one destroys the historical perspective of Rochester, like the old Canal, you have nothing but a banal commercial cityscape devoid of interest.

    Business interests have destroyed a lot of Rochester already; will this project just continue that trend to suburbanization, making Rochester just another exit on the superhighways?

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